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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:21 pm 
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[ ] the beer prices (It doesn't travel that far people [ ]


Yeah what is the crack with the exorbitant prices of these new local micro-breweries ales in London now? Obviously they're not hitting the economies of scale of mass-production but, y'know, beer ain't expensive to make and in most cases you can literally roll the barrels from the brewery to the pub they're that close.

Would've thought most would be ~£3 a pint as a result but they're not.

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I had a pint of Brodies in the Sebrights and it cost me £4.60. Given that the same pint costs just £2.19 in Brodies own pub a bus ride away it makes you wonder if that Brewery charges more for it's beer when it sells it or whether the pubs make a huge mark up. Also stick Craft in front of a beer now and that alone seems to grant a license to add a quid or more to the price.

Westie - it seems Hackney is over run with micro Brewery pubs these days. I am planning a crawl later this month or early next. I will let you know.

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Bola wrote:
[ ] Westie - it seems Hackney is over run with micro Brewery pubs these days. I am planning a crawl later this month or early next. I will let you know.


Yeah man - you can do a very convincing crawl these days. Even the Windsor Castle and the Crooked Billet in Clapton have been ponced up. Never thought I'd see the day...

The Clapton Hart is a great pub and so is the Cock Tavern (the latter always has a beer for under £3.50 in there). The rest of the recent renovations aren't great though. It's all a bit hit and miss. The Kenton's ok in Homerton. They've done the Britannia up on Victoria Park Road and called it summat else too. Can't remember which. Not been to the new Princess of Wales on the canal either.

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Yeah man - you can do a very convincing crawl these days. Even the Windsor Castle and the Crooked Billet in Clapton have been ponced up. Never thought I'd see the day...

The Clapton Hart is a great pub and so is the Cock Tavern (the latter always has a beer for under £3.50 in there). The rest of the recent renovations aren't great though. It's all a bit hit and miss. The Kenton's ok in Homerton. They've done the Britannia up on Victoria Park Road and called it summat else too. Can't remember which. Not been to the new Princess of Wales on the canal either.


Ha - I know what you mean about those two!

The Cock is great - great beer. The Clapton Hart does great beer and is lovely inside. Shame about the poncey clientèle though. Mind you it makes great people watching.

The Princess is over priced and the beer is not kept that well.

The Hackney Brewery have opened a pub (The Plough) on Homerton High Street (well is now a pub again after being a restaurant for many years). Nice to see them revert to the name it had in my great grandfathers time!

The Wellington on Balls Pond Road is pretty good especially their beer festivals. Again it's on the expensive side but they get beer from a couple of small micros that do not have their own pubs.

What is the Elderfield like these days?

Hopefully the Chesham will reopen soon. Long legal battle there. The new owner tried to convert it against the planning decision and Hackney have slapped a community pub status on it.

Phew. I will have to move back home soon.

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Not been to the Elderfield for years but it looks kinda the same but with a lick of paint. Had a peak in at the taps last year and they didn't seem to have any micro stuff but had a few perfectly decent lines - Adnam's Ghost Ship was on for sure.

I didn't like The Plough when I went in there but willing to give it another crack. Full of more bellends than the Windsor Castle was. Was in the Duke of Wellington just last week mate. One of my favourites (one of the only pubs left in the area that shows football).

Noticed The Hospital Tavern had shut down the other week. Wonder if that'll reopen. It was always reassuringly grotty. Not a huge fan of what's happened to the area. Sure - there's more pubs with good beer on now but an area always needs a mix of types of pubs. There's literally no 'old school' boozers left now. Well - Tommy Flynn's (formerly the Wishing Well). Went in there to watch some football recently and me and my mate had to talk our way out of a kicking from some annoyed locals angry at the changes going on. One of 'em took exception to my beard and it all carried on from there. Not nice...

Both Fitzgerald's and The Lord Cecil lying empty as well. Plenty of space in the latter if anyone can afford it...

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I had some trouble in the Wishing Well once. Lucky I can talk my way out of a paper bag and me and a mate managed to get out unscathed.

Lord Cecil. My favourite place to be on a Sunday evening for many years. The regulars were so wasted I looked and played like a brilliant pool player!

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Used to live on the same road as the Elderfield - lovely pub, weird watching it's surge in popularity from 2005 to 2010.

My favourite pub in London to drink in was always the Pembury Tavern, but sadly I haven't been there since I left London (2011) so I dunno if it's gone down hill. But they used to have great ales in there from their own (I think) Brewery.

And, Bola - you are a good pool player and you know it!

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My favourite pub in London to drink in was always the Pembury Tavern, but sadly I haven't been there since I left London (2011) so I dunno if it's gone down hill. But they used to have great ales in there from their own (I think) Brewery.


The place was absolutely filthy the last time I was in there. Plus there were only couple of hand pumps in use instead of the 8 or 9 it used to have. I think the owners were winding it down. I guess we can ask Westie to pop in and give us an update!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:17 pm 
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If you do said Hackney crawl give me a shout, don't know many pubs over the border

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The Pembury's still great! It's a lot more popular these days (which has its downsides, as we all know in East London) but there's still about 8/9 hand drawns. Usually have a dozen from a brewery called Milton in Cambridge. I never see their beers anywhere else and I can never remember what I have! Sparta I think (about 4%). But the key thing is you can still get a cracking beer for under £3.50 and they always usually have 2 ciders on (one's usually pear). They have a beer festival on once a year 'n' all.

It's a bit grotty like, but it's great. Their pizzas are excellent too.

Yeah let us know when you're crawling Bola. Can't see myself being in Hackney too much longer. Looking to buy a flat and I'm well and truly priced out. Read an article yesterday saying the average (the AVERAGE) property price in Hackney now is £500,000. It is insane. Absolutely insane.

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Up for some pool as well. The Pembury's got a table. Nowhere else has, sadly...

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Oh yeah, an 'ackney pub crawl with pool cues and whatnot.

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Up for some pool as well. The Pembury's got a table. Nowhere else has, sadly...


There's another pub with a pool table (and ale) just behind Graham Rd...I only went there a few times but it was alright I *think* it's called the Prince George, or maybe even the Prince Charles. Prince something.

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He Who Hears Horses wrote:
There's another pub with a pool table (and ale) just behind Graham Rd...I only went there a few times but it was alright I *think* it's called the Prince George, or maybe even the Prince Charles. Prince something.


Prince Arthur in Forest Road perhaps?

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Bola wrote:
He Who Hears Horses wrote:
There's another pub with a pool table (and ale) just behind Graham Rd...I only went there a few times but it was alright I *think* it's called the Prince George, or maybe even the Prince Charles. Prince something.


Prince Arthur in Forest Road perhaps?


No, it's close to that though. Just googled it and it is the Prince George on Wilton Way and seems it still has a pool table.

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Aye the George - forgot about that place. Nice pool room at the back. Spent more than a few nights in there! Used to have the most miserable landlord ever. Great jukebox too.

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Yeah the George is a nice pub. Always, always rammed mind. It's a Fullers pub though. Not a problem in itself because you're guaranteed a pretty good pint of something in there (Seafarers, Discovery or HSB) but there's plenty more choice in the area.

Maddigans on Mare Street also has about 4 pool tables (no ale though). The Globe on Morning Lane also has a pool table. Bloody love the Globe. Filthy cheap in there and they usually have a very well kept Ghost Ship on. Pool table's awkwardly located though, and you will come out smelling of chip fat...

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Yeah the George is a nice pub. Always, always rammed mind. It's a Fullers pub though. Not a problem in itself because you're guaranteed a pretty good pint of something in there (Seafarers, Discovery or HSB) but there's plenty more choice in the area.


Now there is. It used to be a real ale oasis in a keg/lager desert!

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