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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:46 pm 
The reason The Strokes have scrapped their live lp is that live lps are only any good if-

a) you have more than 2 lps to choose songs from
b) if not very many people saw you live during your bands life
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c) if you do different versions of the songs you've already recorded...

Some good live lps

Bob Dylan "1966- Live at the Manchester Free Trade Hall"
The Velvet Underground "1969" and "Max's Kansas City"
The Who "Live At Leeds" (The extended version not the original LP)
MC5 "Kick Out The Jams" (Though this may not count seeing as how it was their first LP)
Randy Newman "Live" (But I think it's only me who likes this)

I can think of no more which proves my point...maybe "Get Yer Ya-Yas Out" but even that's not that good...


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:54 pm 
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More great live albums

Carole King - Live at Carnegie Hall
John Cale - Fragments of a Rainy Season
Mark Eitzel - Songs of Love
Motorhead - No Sleep til Hammersmith

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:55 pm 
Paul Weller- Days of Speed... seriously, it's excellent.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:37 pm 
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Generally agree that live LPs are rubbsih. New Order's Live At Glastonbury a promes example.

However my faves:

The Pixies Live CD that came in the limited version of "Death To The Pixies". Tops!
Mighty Lemon Drops - "All The Way" - seriously!
Front 242 - "Live Target" - Head hunt this........
Pretenders - "Isle Of View" - Amazingly and shockingly good!

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Lou Reed, John Cale, & Nico - Le Bataclan 72. Great live album.


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My favourite live album is "Dance Craze". But even a few songs off that have been touched up in the studio.


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good live albums? A tiny category. Ones that come to mind are:

Soft Boys: Live at the Portland Arms
Live at the Vortex (Wire and Johnny Moped especially)

And I suspect that that Strokes news was press hype from the git-go. Like Simon Luv says, they're a bit light on songs and they're a bit shite full stop. But it got them a few half-pages in their fanzine, err the NME. Besides, that story had bigger holes than Catweazel's underpants: Casablancas wouldn't know a decent sound if it kicked him in the bell-end - old posh twat has to be told everything.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:01 am 
Oooh I've not heard that Soft Boys live thing...

Is it old Soft Boys or from the reunion tour?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:14 am 
REM's 'New Adventures In Hi-Fi' doesn't strictly count as a live album, but most of the tracks were recorded live and it is a fine album.


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Johnny Anarchy wrote:
Live at the Vortex (Wire and Johnny Moped especially)


Are you sure about that Johnny? Wire and Johnny Moped were on the Live at the Roxy LP, along with the Buzzcocks, Adverts, X-Ray Spex and er, Slaughter and the Dogs and The Unwanted. The Vortex LP probably included such greats as The Wasps :wink:

FWIW I'm fond of the Only Ones 'Live' album, Billy Bragg and The Red Stars 'Live Bootleg', and Bob Marley and The Wailers 'Live at the Lyceum'.

Although I love the Smiths, I haven't played 'Rank' often [has anyone? where's Neon nowadays?] and I haven't heard a New Order or Joy Division live performance that bears relistening: "You should hear our version of 'louie, louie'". No thanks, Ian!

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The Buzzcocks' '78 Lyceum gig included in the Product box set is great, but then I'm biased as I was there. :D


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:45 pm 
Neil Diamond live - I shit you not - it's a gem. Neil - 'We're gonna do a little song now that UB40 took all the way to number one for me...' (he kind of sounds pissed off by the fact but strangely amused by it too) before breaking out into 'Red, red wine....' Just beautiful and 'Elvis live at Madison Square Garden'...when he sings Polk Salad Annie he takes me to another place.. :? :shock: Elvis :arrow: 8) Huh huh...


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Cavey! wrote:
Neil Diamond live - I shit you not - it's a gem. Neil - 'We're gonna do a little song now that UB40 took all the way to number one for me...' (he kind of sounds pissed off by the fact but strangely amused by it too) before breaking out into 'Red, red wine....' Just beautiful and 'Elvis live at Madison Square Garden'...when he sings Polk Salad Annie he takes me to another place.. :? :shock: Elvis :arrow: 8) Huh huh...


Actually I'm gonna agree with you with Neil Diamond. My dad was a massive fan so that's all we ever heard until he went out and got pissed, which was maybe every night.

I'll vote for Dylan and Bragg live releases too. Truth be told though when you're a massive fan of an artist you'll listen to any old shite by them. I've some very ropey Pogues recordings, both official and boots and great though they are to see and hear in person, in the comfort of your own home you eventually cotton on that it's pish.

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Simon Los Love wrote:
Oooh I've not heard that Soft Boys live thing...

Is it old Soft Boys or from the reunion tour?


Ooh, it's well old Soft Boys - recorded back in 78 I think. It originally came out as a cassette free with Invisible Hits first time round, then eventually released on vinyl itself. V odd - folk stuff, psych stuff but lots of very English singalone silliness, part Bonzos, part Lennon.

Tony T - yeah, you're right - it was the Roxy album. Glad you didn't query the greatness of Johnny Moped!


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Bovine Juice wrote:
I'll vote for Dylan and Bragg live releases too. Truth be told though when you're a massive fan of an artist you'll listen to any old shite by them. I've some very ropey Pogues recordings, both official and boots and great though they are to see and hear in person, in the comfort of your own home you eventually cotton on that it's pish.



Have you got any live Pogues stuff from when Strummer was with them? I've just got a few live tracks from the "Tuesday Morning" CD singles, but the quality is pretty good on those.
I've got a bootleg of Billy Bragg's Joe Strummer tribute gig which pretty good quality. Seems that Billy is still pissed off with the fact that Strummer gave X Moore from the Redskins a telecaster. I also have about 20-30 Redskins bootlegs of which most are better than the official live CD. I really like the London Poly one with the encore featuring Jerry Dammers and Billy Bragg and the bootleg of the last gig with the Redskins playing jazz! :shock:

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Bazza wrote:
I've got a bootleg of Billy Bragg's Joe Strummer tribute gig which pretty good quality.


I've got that - it's excellent.

Download it from here:

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-deta ... hp?id=9336

The gigs are in lossless format and you will really need broadband to downlo\d.

Loads more Billy Bragg gigs to download from the same site:

http://www.archive.org/audio/etreelisti ... ly%20Bragg

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:48 pm 
Well, it turns out I was wrong...everyone loves a live lp!!!


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Bola wrote:
The Pixies Live CD that came in the limited version of "Death To The Pixies". Tops!


Even more tops is the 2x10" version that is part of the vinyl box set version of Death to the Pixies. i'm not the world's greatest vinyl junkie, but that is a truly lurvely thing to own.

Come to think of it "Concert" by the Cure is a pretty fine live album too - I'd forgotten about it cos, like much of the Cure stuff, I've only got it on cassette.

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Not really one for Live albums, although one that always makes me laugh is The Pooh Sticks' "Trademark of Quality", as it documents a rather disasterous gig in Southampton (the power even cuts out 20 minutes into the set, so it is only a one-sided LP), so it's an entertaining antidote to all the ego-inflating contractual obligation fillers that tend to dominate the genre.


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