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Trev · Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 8:49 pm Post subject:

Martinez assistant - was with us for 2 years before he went with Martinez to Wigan. He understands the way we play, helped implement it first time around. I did say whoever we chose would be relatively unknown. And he was ahead of Rodgers with the bookies before he got the job 2 years ago, too.

Top appointment, for me.

SPT · Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 9:17 pm Post subject:

Hmm, Kuwati with bags of cash rumoured to have bought Forest. Or Leeds. Manager he's hoping to install? Warnock. Dunno whether to hope the ownership issues are at an end or not. Before anyone says anything I know Warnock's good at getting promotion. But he's Warnock.
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KevW · Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 9:23 pm Post subject:

Yeah looked up Jones and it could go either way for me. A bit like BR to LFC it's a big step up.

Warnock does my head in but he does have a knack of getting out of the Championship, I just don't buy into his whole underdog/the world is out to get us attitude.
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Bovine Juice · Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:14 am Post subject:

The problem with Heskey is fitness not ability (no matter what people say, he could still do a job).

Hope Forest do get some money. Big club and lots of fans who have stuck by them despite the lack of success (like an East Midlands version of City but with less inflatables but better Euro pots). Although I'm not sure United and Derby are equals for irritating neighbours...

SPT · Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:59 pm Post subject:

Hmmm. Three things that make me wary of bags of cash:

1. The smug yet desperate preening of the County fans when they thought they were booked on the gravy train to success (even more than the sheepish looks when they realised their ticket was a fake bought off a tout).

2. The deeply tedious exchanges earlier in this and other threads about how fair or otherwise it all is. I never want to get drawn into those.

3. The drear expectation that the supporters' job is to cheerlead, even if the manager's Warnock ("I don't know why the supporters are complaining Brian, he's got a good track record, they'll soon forget when they get a few wins")

4. The absolute iron-clad certainty that there's a huge chunk of Forest support who at the first sniff that the cash is real will take to all the above in a way that will make Forest more tedious than County, Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea combined.
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Bovine Juice · Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:23 pm Post subject:

Er, that's four things.

Do you actually know many County fans?

As for Warnock, how does having money change your attitude to your manager? Or is it just that you hate Warnock and can't imagine any circumstances where you'd be happy with him at the helm?

As for how fans react to money, well you can guarantee the opposition fans will give you stick, obviously. It's how the fans react to that that's important. There was a very brief period when some City fans started singing "We'll buy your club and burn it down" (admittedly under provocation from the opposition supporters chanting "where were you when you were shit?" even though City were averaging nearly 30000 in Div 3). Luckily that quickly got shouted down by the more sensible element and songs these days are celebratory rather than crass or arrogant.

Anyway I've not read anything about any of this Forest rumour so where's it come from?

SPT · Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:32 pm Post subject:

My brother's a County fan, so yes. And they did get all lairy before they got all sheepish.

Yes re the Warnock thing. The man can turn out a decent side, which makes it all the worse when he turns out anti-football specials.Don't forget we've ditched fairly successful managers for prettier models a few times...

There's plenty of nob-end Forest fans who consider the team has a right to be top six Premier League cos of two European Cup wins 30-odd years ago. They WILL be unbearable.

As for the story, a tweeted no comment from the club led me to a Sun article and various things in the Evening Post. Kenny Burns is already rubbing his hands together and you have to assume he's got some sort of inside track. Thing is there's an assumption the bloke in the frame is Mansour-style loaded, but I don't see any immediate evidence of that. It'd be nice to be good again, don't get me wrong. But good, as in playing some nice football with players you kInd of recognise, as we did under Davies, was plenty.
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Bovine Juice · Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:44 am Post subject:

Fair dos re County though massive respect to your brother for sticking with the club.

I know what you mean re aspirations. I've said on here many times that the season we won Div 1 (now the Championship) under Keegan with Huck, The Goat, Eyal and Ali B was my favourite ever. Great football but for one season anyway, successful football too. That anticipation that you'd be happy at 5pm on a Saturday and the confidence that if you went 1-0 down, you'd win 3-1. Not an experience I've had often in my life. But that was before last season which beat everything and any quibbles about the rights or wrongs of cash were chucked out by the way we won the league, both in drama and style of football. It was well worth waiting 44 years and I still find myself on Youtube clicking on 'Aguero goal' for the moment when Tyler goes "Aguuuuuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooo!!!!!" and Big Niall utters an emotional "Stupendous!".

Like I said I hope it works out.

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SPT · Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:37 pm Post subject:

Ah well, looks like its not us he's buying anyway so I get to wallow in mediocrity for a while longer.
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Bovine Juice · Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:40 pm Post subject:

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Bovine Juice · Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:52 am Post subject:

Bearing in mind what an amazing finale the Premier League season delivered last season you'd be hard pressed to make it anything other than exciting. Well.... apparently there's a channel out there in freeview TV land that's funded by Kelvin MacKenzie and covers footy matches live in direct competition with Jeff Stelling and co. And they somehow managed it.

http://youtu.be/jYVYYolhTM8

It's not helped by having 5 pundits watching it (in addition to the Evertonian host) who are four United fans and one QPR guy (who only realises they're safe 2 minutes after everyone else)...

Trev · Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:34 pm Post subject:

Swansea update: Jones out of the running, Dennis Bergkamp the new favourite. Crikey.

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Trev · Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:51 pm Post subject: