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 Post subject: Prem League Predictions
PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:55 pm 
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1 Liverpool
2 Chelsea
3 Arsenal
4 Man Utd
5 Man City
6 Everton
7 Tottenham
8 Sunderland
9 Newcastle
10 Hull
11 Leicester
12 Swansea
13 Stoke
14 West Brom
15 QPR
16 Southampton
17 Crystal Palace
18 West Ham
19 Burnley
20 Aston Villa

Top 7 pretty much nailed on, order could differ hugely.

Anyone from 8th downwards could be relegated.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:24 pm 
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I'm normally pretty useless at this; hopefully I've got it totally wrong again.

1 Arsenal
2 Chelsea
3 Liverpool
4 Man City
5 Man Utd
6 Everton
7 Tottenham
8 Newcastle
9 Stoke
10 Sunderland
11 Crystal Palace
12 Southampton
13 West Ham
14 Hull
15 QPR
16 Swansea
17 Leicester
18 West Brom
19 Aston Villa
20 Burnley

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:58 pm 
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1 Man City
2 Chelsea
3 Liverpool
4 Arsenal
5 Man Utd
6 Tottenham
7 Everton
8 Hull
9 Stoke
10 Sunderland
11 QPR
12 West Ham
13 Crystal Palace
14 Swansea
15 Newcastle
16 Leicester
17 West Brom
18 Aston Villa
19 Southampton
20 Burnley


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:32 am 
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Top 7

1 Arsenal
2 Chelsea
3 Man City
4 Man Utd
5 Liverpool
6 Everton
7 Tottenham

Bottom 3

18 West Brom
19 Burnley
20 Leicester

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:40 am 
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Really difficult. I agree with Trev when he said the top 7 will be the top 7 but who knows what order and all the rest could be relegated.

1 Chelsea
2 Man C
3 Man U
4 Arsenal
5 Liverpool
6 Tottenham
7 Everton
8 Hull
9 Stoke
10 Sunderland
11 Crystal Palace
12 Newcastle
13 Leicester
14 Swansea
15 QPR
16 West Ham
17 Aston Villa
18 West Brom
19 Southampton
20 Burnley

Think there could be a significant gap between 5th and 6th.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:15 pm 
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Liverpool to win the league Trev? :D

Chelsea will win it at an absolute canter. Unless Diego Costa flops.

1. Chelsea
2. Arsenal
3. Man City
4. Man United
5. Liverpool
6. Everton
7. Spurs

West Ham, West Brom and Burnley for the drop. Think West Ham will ditch Allardyce round October time and make a poor choice of replacement. West Brom look generally bereft. Burnley will be spirited but ultimately will fall short. Leicester will be alright I reckon. Good manager plus they've got enough cash to just about adjust to the top flight. Villa, Sunderland and Swansea will be in the relegation mixer from Christmas onwards.

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Liverpool will not win the league. Champions League will be their downfall. And it'll probably stop Arsenal too, decent though they looked yesterday.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:14 pm 
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Liverpool to win the league Trev? :D


I don't see why not. I'm not convinced by Chelsea. Man City seem to have stood still. Liverpool have lost 1 player but strengthened elsewhere. Arsenal are too thin on the ground.... Man Utd will need longer and more players to get back to the top.

Swansea won't struggle. Bony and Gomis and Sigurdsson should get us enough goals to be safe in the mid table and with some luck pushing top ten. And we don't have an extra 10-12 European games which distracted us last year. We've got a better manager this year, too.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:36 pm 
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Trev wrote:
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Liverpool to win the league Trev? :D


I don't see why not. I'm not convinced by Chelsea. Man City seem to have stood still. Liverpool have lost 1 player but strengthened elsewhere. Arsenal are too thin on the ground.... Man Utd will need longer and more players to get back to the top.

Swansea won't struggle. Bony and Gomis and Sigurdsson should get us enough goals to be safe in the mid table and with some luck pushing top ten. And we don't have an extra 10-12 European games which distracted us last year. We've got a better manager this year, too.


Champions League. Our squad does not have enough quality across all positions to maintain a challenge in both the PL and CL. Don't get me wrong I think it'll be another good season but it'll take another couple of years until we'll be at the level of an Arsenal or a Chelsea in terms of squad depth. All being well of course...

I think Swansea will struggle badly, sadly. Bony will get nabbed in January. Not sure what you're basing your assessment of Garry Monk on (1/3 of a season of utter mediocrity?) but he's already had training ground fracas with 2 players (one of them being Chico Flores notwithstanding) and I saw nothing last season to mark him out as a good manager. I like him though. We'll see.

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Champions League?

Am pretty sure you'll go out early doors in the CL. Shouldn't fuck up the league campaign.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:46 pm 
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Trev wrote:
Champions League?

Am pretty sure you'll go out early doors in the CL. Shouldn't fuck up the league campaign.


Yeah the need to rotate and play a decent XI in all competitions will be difficult with our squad. I'm hoping for a decent run in both. No point in getting in the CL just to bend over and get dumped out early...

But, we'll see. Can't wait for the resurgence of the 'BIG EUROPEAN NIGHT AT ANFIELD' stuff from Tyldesley :D It's been 6 years...

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But, we'll see. Can't wait for the resurgence of the 'BIG EUROPEAN NIGHT AT ANFIELD' stuff from Tyldesley :D It's been 6 years...


"...and who can forget that magical night in Istanbul..."

We can't because tiresome commentators churn it out too often to permit it.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:56 pm 
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I think Swansea will struggle badly, sadly. Bony will get nabbed in January. Not sure what you're basing your assessment of Garry Monk on (1/3 of a season of utter mediocrity?) but he's already had training ground fracas with 2 players (one of them being Chico Flores notwithstanding) and I saw nothing last season to mark him out as a good manager. I like him though. We'll see.


Bony/Gomis/Sigurdsson should get us 45+ goals.

Monk kept us up (something I don't think Laudrup wouldn't have done - he was bereft of ideas and had lost half the dressing room) and has shifted out a lot of the players that didn't want to work for the club. He was chosen by the current chairman, that's enough reason to believe in him. His choices thus far:

Martinez (Yep, he started what is currently on going at Swansea) (Promotion from League 1, 8th Championship)
Sousa (1 season, shored up our defence - but lacked in attack) (7th Championship)
Rodgers (2 seasons, improved on the Martinez blueprint) (Play Off Promotion, 11th premier league)
Laudrup (Won us a pot but didn't see eye to eye with chairman on the direction the club wanted to go, 9th premier league in first season)
Monk (steadied a seriously wonky ship, guiding us to 12th, got rid of the players that weren't onboard this close season - also had to sell/loan out a couple of players he'd have rather kept (Davies/Michu) but that is where Swansea are at - when retaining our best players).

Two of those are currently among the best managers in the Premier League. Laudrup is still highly thought of within the game, although amongst the Jacks, less so.

Monk had been identified as a possible manager under Martinez - it just came a bit earlier than we expected. He understands what the club is about, is a sound tactician, and so far his signings look decent. We're going to be a bit more direct this season if pre-season chatter is anything to go by.

So what I am saying is the chairman has a pretty good hit rate when it comes to judging who is best to manage the club. I have no reason to doubt he's found the right man this time either.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:58 pm 
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Westie wrote:
No point in getting in the CL just to bend over and get dumped out early...


That approach hasn't done Man City much harm. :twisted:

I honestly think Rodgers will put premier league above CL for the reason of having not won the league for about 25 years. Your focus is going to be the league. That's why I've tipped Liverpool to win it.

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Tbf to City we've had the issue of low seeding to contend with, so we kept being pitted with Champions (Bayern twice, Dortmund, Porto, Napoli, Real, etc in last three years) in the group stage. We got out of the group stage last season but then immediately met Barcelona. Our tally now from winning the league twice and being runners-up once in the last 3 years will mean the job should get easier. If it doesn't I'll be back on here blaming the weather. ;) Interestingly, should United qualify in 14/15 they'll have lost their 2009 pot win and gained a non-qualification so their seeding will plummet.

Liverpool won't win the league. Chelsea and Arsenal have improved greatly and City have too to a lesser degree. United have a better manager. It's going to be a tough season with five genuine contenders.

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I'll throw my hat into the ring...

Liverpool won't win. They were unlucky last year, but this summer they seem to have bought about a million new players and finding a settled team amongst that lot will be difficult. It's that problem of trying to keep a lot of people happy and I think they'll struggle which will be a shame after the season they had last year. I think they were the best team in the league. City might have the same problem despite buying less. I can't see either winning.

Arsenal are looking better but it might be a year too soon. Assuming it all clicks with Chelsea then the title could be theirs.

I think Man Utd would have done much better last season if they hadn't had injuries at various points to Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Evans, Jones, Fellaini, Carrick, Nani, Rooney and RVP (off the top of my head) - so this season if they stay injury free then they'll be contenders again. A couple of good young signings will strengthen them and fill in a couple of gaps left by aging players. Plus it looks like we've got Rojo so our defence is starting to look good. We've won every pre-season game - LA Galaxy, Roma, Inter Milan, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Valencia - and that's no mean feat! I know it's pre-season but it'll fill the side with confidence. The other thing to remember is that just about the whole Utd team have won major leagues before - and most of them have won the PL, so they have the experience. The youngsters we've got coming through have looked red hot too so that's quite exciting.

Therefore:

Man Utd
Chelsea
Arsenal
Man City
Liverpool or Everton - gonna be tight.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:40 pm 
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I think Man Utd would have done much better last season if they hadn't had injuries at various points to Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Evans, Jones, Fellaini, Carrick, Nani, Rooney and RVP (off the top of my head) - so this season if they stay injury free then they'll be contenders again.


Yeah, it was injuries that saw United finish 7th last season... :roll:

Thank fook you're not on the board, Kev :wink:

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Nothing wrong with a bit of confidence. I think City will finish strongly again but I expect us to have a shaky start like last season. Way too many players are far from match fitness, and many of them are the defensive ones. Don't be surprised if we start the season with a few high scoring wins and defeats...

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He Who Hears Horses wrote:
KevW wrote:
I think Man Utd would have done much better last season if they hadn't had injuries at various points to Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Evans, Jones, Fellaini, Carrick, Nani, Rooney and RVP (off the top of my head) - so this season if they stay injury free then they'll be contenders again.


Yeah, it was injuries that saw United finish 7th last season... :roll:

Thank fook you're not on the board, Kev :wink:


:lol:

I know we were poor last season, but never having a settled team was definitely a big factor! We were never going to win the league, but with a full strength team we'd have finished higher.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:14 pm 
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I wanna revise my predictions now that Pulis has left Palace. They'll struggle some without him.

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