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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:08 pm 
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I am sure the referee will see Brazil safely through this evening.



Given the potential for the country to erupt into a series of riots if they go out, I'd imagine he'll be doing his best! Then scarpering in case they lose the final!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:29 pm 
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Bola wrote:
I am sure the referee will see Brazil safely through this evening.


I think the attention that the leniency toward Brazil got in the last game will put a greater focus on all refereeing decisions this game. Everyone was talking about it and it was shocking refereeing.

Also, Germany are good at playing clean and keeping their nerve in high pressure matches.

If Scolari uses Willian right it could make Brazil stronger imo. He's an engine with creative prowess that doesn't really fit in the team with Neymar there, but if he drops that Fred bloke, plays Hulk up top with Willian and Oscar cutting inside they could look better up top than before.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:31 pm 
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With 30 minutes gone may I say what a great game the ref has had. :D :twisted:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:21 am 
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I don't think the ref could have done anything about that if he tried!

In all her great wisdom, my missus decided to place her first ever bet last night. The silly cow decided that she'd have a punt on Germany winning 9-0, like anything even close to that would ever happen!


(We were so close to winning piles of cash from just a fiver!)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:40 pm 
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KevW wrote:
I don't think the ref could have done anything about that if he tried!

In all her great wisdom, my missus decided to place her first ever bet last night. The silly cow decided that she'd have a punt on Germany winning 9-0, like anything even close to that would ever happen!


(We were so close to winning piles of cash from just a fiver!)


Someone made $46k (in America) from a £20 stake on Germany winning 7-1 and Khedira scoring. Your wife's bet had some mileage though!

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It was a cracking bit of TV viewing. Brazil so deserved that mullering after their brutality against Columbia. They didn't at any stage look fit, organised or talented enough to stop the Germans. Fantastic stuff. I hope the Germans are like that in the final too, could make for a cracking final.

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Defo the best World Cup I've seen.

Glad to see homophobic Phil's ridiculous squad/team selection and negative tactics fall apart.

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KevW wrote:
I don't think the ref could have done anything about that if he tried!

In all her great wisdom, my missus decided to place her first ever bet last night. The silly cow decided that she'd have a punt on Germany winning 9-0, like anything even close to that would ever happen!


(We were so close to winning piles of cash from just a fiver!)


Someone made $46k (in America) from a £20 stake on Germany winning 7-1 and Khedira scoring. Your wife's bet had some mileage though!


Who would even think of making that bet?!

If it had been 9-0, we'd actually have got a lot less than we could have. She decided to sign up for an account (I think with Bet 365 or something) so it took a while to register. The game was underway when she decided to put the bet on and the odds change literally every few seconds. They were amazing odds when she looked them up, but by the time she'd registered her card Germany scored those 4 goals in about 5 minutes and it went down to 66-1. Still decent, but nothing like it was at the start of the game!

Deffo a great world cup. I've been a Netherlands fan since England went out. I don't think they're the best team in the tournament, but they have a chance. Germany looked amazing last night, but they haven't in some games. A lot of it was down to just how poor Brazil were. It was like watching Andorra or San Marino or something (no disrespect to them, but you know what I mean - they didn't look like pro players).

Due to a hatred of the German football team (they've beaten us too many times!) I hope they lose the final.

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The Germans are the best team in the tournament and I hope they win it. Several other teams have several better players but one of the things this World Cup has shown is that you are only as good as your worst players and it's no use having 5 worldbeaters and 6 who are shit. Case in point was Costa Rica the other night against Holland, they allowed Kuyt, Indi et al to have as much of the ball as they liked and doubled up on the good players.

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jimgibb wrote:
The Germans are the best team in the tournament and I hope they win it. Several other teams have several better players but one of the things this World Cup has shown is that you are only as good as your worst players and it's no use having 5 worldbeaters and 6 who are shit. Case in point was Costa Rica the other night against Holland, they allowed Kuyt, Indi et al to have as much of the ball as they liked and doubled up on the good players.



Unfortunately I pretty much agree. They have their faults though, no team has been outstanding throughout the tournament and Germany have just done the bare minimum at times (last night being the exception) - which is all that's needed. I'm hoping from some magic from Robben or Messi or RVP or someone in the final!

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jimgibb wrote:
The Germans are the best team in the tournament and I hope they win it. Several other teams have several better players but one of the things this World Cup has shown is that you are only as good as your worst players and it's no use having 5 worldbeaters and 6 who are shit. Case in point was Costa Rica the other night against Holland, they allowed Kuyt, Indi et al to have as much of the ball as they liked and doubled up on the good players.


I agree completely that this WC has been all about teams rather than individuals (thus far), pressing and tactical nous have made this WC fantastic, and Germany are a really good side. But Algeria, USA and Ghana showed that Germany are certainly not a truly *great side*, and I'm not sure that on current evidence I'd have them down as the best side in the tournament, at all.

I have nothing against them, and I wanted them to win last night, but I think other teams have been better than Germany thus far - Chile who faced Brazil in the last 16 where Germany faced Algeria would still be up there for me as having been as good as Germany in the tournament, ditto Columbia. In fact, I think Columbia were better but faced a Brazil with Silva, Neymar and the ref leaning every decision toward Brazil.

I think Holland have been better than Germany also thus far, whether or not they get through to the final is another matter.

If Germany put forward a decent performance in the final against Argentina or Holland and win it, I'll of course see them as the best team in this World Cup. But at present I don't think so.

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The most welcome aspect of Brazil's annihilation for me was having the TV cameras pan to the supporters of the losing team and them not erupt into ridiculously exaggerated smiling and waving because they'd seen themselves on tele! That's been driving me mad all tournament

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I see Brazil are blaming their loss on Mick Jagger! Brilliant! Apparently he's the opposite of that psychic octopus - he's publicly given his support to 10 teams in a row at the last couple of world cups... and all 10 have gone on to lose.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:57 am 
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By the way...

Interesting statistic that's got me even more happy that van Gaal is Utd's new manager. He's made some great tactical moves (the set-up that stuffed Spain, the late keeper substitution...) and before the tournament I don't think many people would have thought this Dutch team would be a shoot-out away from the final.

The biggest problem when playing Argentina is keeping Messi in check, because when he's on form you only need one minor error and he can get a goal. Last night the Dutch totally kept him at bay. During the entire game he had a grand total of 1 touch inside the Dutch penalty area. The spot-kick at the end.

Shame RVP was off colour and Robben was quiet really. Made for a dull game.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:22 am 
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It was tedious - I switched off when Dirk Kuyt (who has had a great tournament) started playing for penalties after 80 minutes. This fear of losing in knockout games makes these stages of the tournament somewhat boring. However as the Brazilians noted you do get the odd exceptions.

Will the final result in the ultimate Brazilian nightmare?

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Brazil must've thrown that match surely? Some dodgy match fixing/crime thing. They didn't even look like they were trying. Doesn't explain all the boo-hoos at the end though! :-) So probably not in reality - but it sure looked like one team was trying to lose from my sofa.

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